Two poets, Alli Warren and Joey Yearous-Algozin, talk about their recent books. They're not scientists, but they agree we’re living the end — Earth's ecological collapse. Knowing time will continue with or without humans, what pleasures can be found in slowly reading a poem? In 'friendship, forgiveness, and non-monetary abundance,' Alli and Joey meet across West Coast/East Coast time zones to ask what poetry can (or can't) do in today's global conditions.